Comments on: Riding the Lollercoaster http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/ The mental ramblings of Sanya Weathers Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:58:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Information on Community Management is Hard to Find | Emergent Future http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1477 Information on Community Management is Hard to Find | Emergent Future Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:16:56 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1477 [...] (you can quote me on that). Community jobs aren’t really a huge focus. I think Sanya over at Eating Bees made that pretty clear with a recent post as [...] [...] (you can quote me on that). Community jobs aren’t really a huge focus. I think Sanya over at Eating Bees made that pretty clear with a recent post as [...]

]]> By: Just Dave http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1476 Just Dave Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:05 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1476 If this were for an entry-level position, that comparison might have some kind of relevance. You're honestly proposing that the equivalent - an experience military officer, with a ten-year history, well-spoken and skilled at handling civilians and the civilian press, all while -still- having an outstanding track record in the military virtues and requirements of command, is -also- going to be making 40k a year? Not to mention potential free/reduced cost room and board, differential pay, reduced taxes from overseash postings, etc...I'd never suggest that anyone in the military is raking in the dough from their service, but your example is apples to oranges. Teachers making 30k (or less) a year is not a counter argument, it's a goddamned travesty. That's a separate issue that needs to be fixed, and the solution is not to make everyopne else butt-ass poor also. And it would be a sweet deal, but after taxes, benefits, SS, retirement if you have it, the take-home on 50k is nowhere near 4k a month. Even if you're not planning for the future at all, 4k a month take-home is pretty far north of 50k a year gross. If this were for an entry-level position, that comparison might have some kind of relevance. You’re honestly proposing that the equivalent – an experience military officer, with a ten-year history, well-spoken and skilled at handling civilians and the civilian press, all while -still- having an outstanding track record in the military virtues and requirements of command, is -also- going to be making 40k a year? Not to mention potential free/reduced cost room and board, differential pay, reduced taxes from overseash postings, etc…I’d never suggest that anyone in the military is raking in the dough from their service, but your example is apples to oranges.

Teachers making 30k (or less) a year is not a counter argument, it’s a goddamned travesty. That’s a separate issue that needs to be fixed, and the solution is not to make everyopne else butt-ass poor also.

And it would be a sweet deal, but after taxes, benefits, SS, retirement if you have it, the take-home on 50k is nowhere near 4k a month. Even if you’re not planning for the future at all, 4k a month take-home is pretty far north of 50k a year gross.

]]> By: sanyaweathers http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1475 sanyaweathers Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:31:14 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1475 You're right, blachawk... and mercy me, I do think you've identified the reason promising young officers flee the military and become "contractors" for five times the salary. You’re right, blachawk… and mercy me, I do think you’ve identified the reason promising young officers flee the military and become “contractors” for five times the salary.

]]> By: blachawk http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1474 blachawk Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:15:08 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1474 What do you guys think is a reasonable salary? Entry-level military officers have responsibilities that are much more demanding, yet they make about 40 grand a year. Teachers who have incrdibly demanding jobs often make mid-30s. "will be responsible for your online message, your product’s online look and feel, your communication with customers, your first contact with disgruntled customers, a team of not less than two other people and possibly a dozen" Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for more than $4,000 a month. What do you guys think is a reasonable salary?

Entry-level military officers have responsibilities that are much more demanding, yet they make about 40 grand a year.

Teachers who have incrdibly demanding jobs often make mid-30s.

“will be responsible for your online message, your product’s online look and feel, your communication with customers, your first contact with disgruntled customers, a team of not less than two other people and possibly a dozen”

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for more than $4,000 a month.

]]> By: Apache http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1473 Apache Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:58:29 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1473 It is a pretty challenging job but it really does depend on where it is located. Cost of living expenses aside; lets say I get really drunk and ask for something crazy at 3am my time. Until I get to sleep, my request is going to pretty dang urgent, at least to me. Until my little errant is complete I'm going to be hypercritical of whoever is in charge of your PR department. Odds are -- most of the times -- it'll be an insane attempt to placate my ego, but that's just part of the job. You can go ahead to put that in your resume; as a couple of readers are might already be familar with me by now. Thank you and good night. It is a pretty challenging job but it really does depend on where it is located.

Cost of living expenses aside; lets say I get really drunk and ask for something crazy at 3am my time.

Until I get to sleep, my request is going to pretty dang urgent, at least to me.

Until my little errant is complete I’m going to be hypercritical of whoever is in charge of your PR department.

Odds are — most of the times — it’ll be an insane attempt to placate my ego, but that’s just part of the job.

You can go ahead to put that in your resume; as a couple of readers are might already be familar with me by now.

Thank you and good night.

]]> By: =j http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1472 =j Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:57:48 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1472 UnSub: What makes you think there is anyone else on the team? UnSub: What makes you think there is anyone else on the team?

]]> By: Garthilk http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1436 Garthilk Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:55:32 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1436 Funny enough, you could have probably made that much money running a very successful 3rd party fansite. Funny enough, you could have probably made that much money running a very successful 3rd party fansite.

]]> By: UnSub http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1467 UnSub Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:02:12 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1467 If the CM boss is earning $50k a year, how much are the two other people on the team earning? If the CM boss is earning $50k a year, how much are the two other people on the team earning?

]]> By: Jeremy Dalberg http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1471 Jeremy Dalberg Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:13:22 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1471 Sure, at... $50k a year. Or have to leave the industry. As long as they keep adjusting expectations downwards rather than adjusting salaries upwards, CMs will continue to have a 2 to 5-year career followed by either departure from the field or departure from the industry. It's depressing. Sure, at… $50k a year. Or have to leave the industry. As long as they keep adjusting expectations downwards rather than adjusting salaries upwards, CMs will continue to have a 2 to 5-year career followed by either departure from the field or departure from the industry. It’s depressing.

]]> By: Michael http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/01/29/riding-the-lollercoaster/#comment-1470 Michael Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:22:53 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-1470 This is a very strange dismissal you are giving me. Yes, community management is not my chosen career. How does this relate to the topic at hand? I assure you that those with the same occupation as myself, have also encountered similar problems. It is mystifying that you would think that only those who hire community managers happen to dream of getting a well qualified person to work for peanuts. It is most certainly a common phenomenon. And just to reiterate what I said earlier: it is the company that will eventually have to either adjust its ways or close its doors. A qualified professional will always find a job. This is a very strange dismissal you are giving me. Yes, community management is not my chosen career. How does this relate to the topic at hand? I assure you that those with the same occupation as myself, have also encountered similar problems. It is mystifying that you would think that only those who hire community managers happen to dream of getting a well qualified person to work for peanuts. It is most certainly a common phenomenon.

And just to reiterate what I said earlier: it is the company that will eventually have to either adjust its ways or close its doors. A qualified professional will always find a job.

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