Comments for Eating Bees http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org Just another WordPress.com weblog Thu, 15 May 2008 20:14:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Krinsath http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4204 Krinsath Thu, 15 May 2008 19:16:48 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4204 Pffft, Socrates: Age of Exegesis is for n00bs. Real gamers play Voltaire: Enlightenment Crusade. ;) All kidding aside, MMOs go back to another maxim about humanity. Individuals are incredibly smart. Groups of individuals, paradoxically, are incredibly dumb. Or "None of us is as dumb as all of us" which explains so many facets of MMOs it's scary. Pffft, Socrates: Age of Exegesis is for n00bs.

Real gamers play Voltaire: Enlightenment Crusade. ;)

All kidding aside, MMOs go back to another maxim about humanity. Individuals are incredibly smart. Groups of individuals, paradoxically, are incredibly dumb. Or “None of us is as dumb as all of us” which explains so many facets of MMOs it’s scary.

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Khan http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4203 Khan Thu, 15 May 2008 18:39:31 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4203 @ Drakks: Hrm ... huh ... wha? *shifty eyes* Hehe @ sanya: Well, unfortunately, I think the /ignore adds were probably completely justified - reason has no place in MMO chat channels in any game - at least none that I've played*. *Pending the release of Socrates: Age of Exegesis MMO @ Drakks: Hrm … huh … wha? *shifty eyes* Hehe

@ sanya: Well, unfortunately, I think the /ignore adds were probably completely justified - reason has no place in MMO chat channels in any game - at least none that I’ve played*.

*Pending the release of Socrates: Age of Exegesis MMO

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Drakks http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4202 Drakks Thu, 15 May 2008 18:27:48 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4202 I don't have a real comment. After reading the above I was just compelled to post saying: "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!" My apologies. I don’t have a real comment. After reading the above I was just compelled to post saying:

“KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!”

My apologies.

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by sanyaweathers http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4201 sanyaweathers Thu, 15 May 2008 18:25:38 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4201 Wow. I must be getting slow. All of these are totally plausible and yet didn't occur to me as I added people to my ignore list. Wow. I must be getting slow. All of these are totally plausible and yet didn’t occur to me as I added people to my ignore list.

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Khan http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4200 Khan Thu, 15 May 2008 18:07:13 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4200 It’s all about conspicuous consumption: “I have to buy the coolest stuff that everyone wants and people that don’t want the same stuff I want are therefore losers. In order to make people want the stuff I want, they must be informed of the alternative and that they are losers for selecting the option they have chosen.” It’s stupid, but there you have it. As if wanting something fewer people want is somehow bad. I think it stems from a lot of insecurity on the part of the hater. Not being a part of the herd is nerve-wracking so those that dare to stray need to be shouted down until they return to the flock – even if being in that particular flock is boring or stupid or has a history of being run off cliffs at random. So basically what Krinsath said. I wish I were a faster typist. :/ It’s all about conspicuous consumption: “I have to buy the coolest stuff that everyone wants and people that don’t want the same stuff I want are therefore losers. In order to make people want the stuff I want, they must be informed of the alternative and that they are losers for selecting the option they have chosen.”

It’s stupid, but there you have it. As if wanting something fewer people want is somehow bad. I think it stems from a lot of insecurity on the part of the hater. Not being a part of the herd is nerve-wracking so those that dare to stray need to be shouted down until they return to the flock – even if being in that particular flock is boring or stupid or has a history of being run off cliffs at random.

So basically what Krinsath said.

I wish I were a faster typist. :/

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Brinstar http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4199 Brinstar Thu, 15 May 2008 17:35:31 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4199 You mean that having political "discussions" ("Bush [senior] sucks!") at 10 years old on the playground isn't normal for the rest of the country? :P You mean that having political “discussions” (”Bush [senior] sucks!” ;) at 10 years old on the playground isn’t normal for the rest of the country? :P

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Krinsath http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4198 Krinsath Thu, 15 May 2008 17:35:13 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4198 I think it's just an evolutionary mechanism run amok. Humans tend to identify with the familiar, and be scared of the unknown. Good survival trait, since the unknown is likely to be full of things to get you killed. So someone brings up something unknown or challenges our preconceptions and our instinctual response is one of hostility. We don't really think about it, we just react. That in turn challenges the original person's preconceptions and they fire back and that triggers someone else and so forth and so on until a good old fashioned flamewar has erupted. Obviously there's also that small community that delights in saying things expressly to incite that reaction. So you have that "default" reaction to change and the unknown, and a bunch of people who are either genuinely immature (because they're kids) or woefully ignorant (that they haven't learned that humans are not a Stimulus -> Response animal...we choose our responses) and it's not dissimilar from the oily rags near the open flame. My personal thoughts...feel free to challenge. :P I think it’s just an evolutionary mechanism run amok. Humans tend to identify with the familiar, and be scared of the unknown. Good survival trait, since the unknown is likely to be full of things to get you killed. So someone brings up something unknown or challenges our preconceptions and our instinctual response is one of hostility. We don’t really think about it, we just react. That in turn challenges the original person’s preconceptions and they fire back and that triggers someone else and so forth and so on until a good old fashioned flamewar has erupted.

Obviously there’s also that small community that delights in saying things expressly to incite that reaction.

So you have that “default” reaction to change and the unknown, and a bunch of people who are either genuinely immature (because they’re kids) or woefully ignorant (that they haven’t learned that humans are not a Stimulus -> Response animal…we choose our responses) and it’s not dissimilar from the oily rags near the open flame.

My personal thoughts…feel free to challenge. :P

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Athryn http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4197 Athryn Thu, 15 May 2008 16:07:28 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4197 And there are people like Lore, who think that the next MMO will be like the rapture, the 2nd coming of Jesus, who will heal us all and make everything better. :P I think what it really comes down to (at least in this country) is people like their teams. Look at the fanatical worship sports teams get. I see that being easily translated over to an MMO. As for me, I think competition is a good thing. :) And there are people like Lore, who think that the next MMO will be like the rapture, the 2nd coming of Jesus, who will heal us all and make everything better. :P

I think what it really comes down to (at least in this country) is people like their teams. Look at the fanatical worship sports teams get. I see that being easily translated over to an MMO.

As for me, I think competition is a good thing. :)

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Lore http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4195 Lore Thu, 15 May 2008 15:39:38 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4195 God's not dead, he's just waiting on Warhammer. God’s not dead, he’s just waiting on Warhammer.

]]> Comment on Seriously, I Don’t Get It by Green Armadillo http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org/2008/05/15/seriously-i-dont-get-it/#comment-4194 Green Armadillo Thu, 15 May 2008 15:01:25 +0000 http://eatingbees.wordpress.com/?p=67#comment-4194 Most are trolls/griefers, who have a thick skin and enjoy poking the beehive with sticks to see if the bees will swarm. A handful are simply ticked that they can't get a refund on the purchase price, and/or wishing they hadn't been quite so "honest" in their /gquit post when they left WoW. Maybe one in a thousand raises the comparison out of an honest (if, perhaps, unrealistic) hope of improving their current game. If you find that guy before the lynch mob does, you might have an intelligent conversation. Most are trolls/griefers, who have a thick skin and enjoy poking the beehive with sticks to see if the bees will swarm. A handful are simply ticked that they can’t get a refund on the purchase price, and/or wishing they hadn’t been quite so “honest” in their /gquit post when they left WoW. Maybe one in a thousand raises the comparison out of an honest (if, perhaps, unrealistic) hope of improving their current game. If you find that guy before the lynch mob does, you might have an intelligent conversation.

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